Dead National Socialist Watch

The NY Times tells me that Elisabeth Schwarzkopf was “Storming” Norman Schwarzkopf’s aunt. I had no idea.

A quick scan of my shelves suggests that I don’t own nearly enough Schwarzkopf recordings, incidentally, so recommendations in the comments are more than more than welcome.

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  1. Backword Dave @ 9:49PM | 03/08/2006| permalink

    Excellent to have you back Chris. Can’t help with the recommendations (I’ve a pretty strong bias towards instrumental music), but there should be some better than decent classical guides on the webs. Have you tried the radio 3 site?

    Any comment on Walter Wolfgang and the NEC (especially in the light of a certain Tory voting blogger’s opinion of the man) would be very welcome.

    scwr @ 9:54PM | 03/08/2006| permalink

    One of the more interesting links between music and the military since Frederick the Great.

    Chris Brooke @ 8:39AM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    BD: I don’t think I’ve got an opinion about WW; I don’t think I voted for him, but I’ve no problem at all with him being on the NEC. Delighted, on the other hand, to see that Ann Black’s been re-elected; she’s a local Oxford person, and does a terrific job.

    SCRW: Did Frederick the Great write music? Or sing? (Nero sang.)

    JM @ 11:48AM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    Check out the S’kopf high-Cs on the famous Furtwangler Tristan scroll down, can’t find much info on this, but it’s opera lore.

    By which connexion you can get to Schwarzkopf in Strauss Four Last Songs (which were apparently written for Flagstad). I’m sure there’s a few, maybe something from the 70s would do. I am sure I have one of these, and I have more special recordings, but I don’t have my record collection here.

    The Legge memoir, and her own memoir? (is there one, I thought so?), would be good places to check out what she thinks are her hits!

    Michael @ 3:20PM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    Wasn’t Schwarzkopf the woman who, notoriously, picked ten of her own recordings for Desert Island Discs?

    (I’m certainly under the impression that Frederick the Great was extremely musical, but I can’t quite summon up the energy to double-check myself)

    Chris Brooke @ 3:24PM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    Mike: Yes, or eight, or however many you’re allowed.

    JM: I think I’ve got the Furtwangler Tristan kicking around somewhere, though I’ve never listened to it just in order to concentrate on the high-C’s.

    Jimmy Doyle @ 3:50PM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    I have some Wolff recordings which are good. I think they’re from the seventies.

    scwr @ 7:39PM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    Der Alte Fritz ‘practised diligently upon the flute and composed lavishly for it.’ He has this in common with Schwarzkopf, who did indeed choose eight of her own recordings on ‘Desert Island Discs’, in a statement from one of his court musicians quoted in the same work–‘If you are under the impression that the King loves music you are wrong; he only loves the flute–and more than that the only flute he loves is his own.’

    That said, I heard her singing Strauss’s ‘Four Last Songs’ on the wireless this morning and was just bowled over.

    scwr @ 7:41PM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    Sorry, the work I was quoting in the comment above and which seems to have been lost was ‘The Oxford Companion to Music’ <1963>

    josh @ 9:47PM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    Frederick the Great also employed one of (J.S.) Bach’s sons – C.P.E. I think — as his court musician, and during a visit by Papa Bach to the court suggested the theme around which the Musical Offering is based (Frederick being the one to whom the piece was an Offering). So, he made a fair contribution to music, really.

    JM @ 10:15PM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    Isn’t it Wolf? Wolff, isn’t he The Great Egg Race person?

    That was my Schwarzkopf opera trivia item: my recordings are scattered in assorted continents: high-Cs may not be highpoints but they are highlights; at least on that special recording. (I think one of the only vinyl things I kept.)

    JM @ 10:18PM | 04/08/2006| permalink

    …and I should add that I did listen for them. That was during the time, as I absorbed class music culture and recording culture, I was trying to listen for edits generally, and failed.

    Jimmy Doyle @ 7:59PM | 05/08/2006| permalink

    JM: You’re right, it’s Wolf. Naturally, my confusion concerned the Leibnizian rationalist Wolff, Kant’s pre-critical guru — not “the Great Egg Race person”…whoever that may be…

    Chris Brooke @ 7:59PM | 05/08/2006| permalink

    Did Jo Wolff ever write songs for Elisabeth Schwarzkopf?

    scwr @ 7:59PM | 05/08/2006| permalink

    You probably have the same EMI Recordings of the Century that sit on my shelves: Fiordiligi, Countess Almaviva, and her part in Brahms ‘German Requiem’. You may not have a specialist CD of military marches from the era of Frederick the Great whose tempo shows just how slowly the long lines of Prussian infantry marched into battle. As a former colleague, who was a real military historian, said, ‘Just like Nelson slowly swinging into the Franco-Spanish line at Trafalgar…when you saw it coming on towards you you knew you were f****d.’

    Gert @ 10:00PM | 13/08/2006| permalink

    Der Rosenkavalier.

    It has been discussed on newsgroups and the conclusion being that as she was an only child she couldn’t have been his aunt but she might have been a distant relative. However Schwartzkopf is reportedly quite a common German name.

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